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    Dry Eye Relief from Ibuprofen

    My current daily regimen is this:

    # One drop of Restasis in each eye, twice a day
    # 2400 mg of flaxseed oil
    # 100 mg of doxycycline
    # Erythromycin ointment at bedtime
    # About 9 vials of Systane
    # Ocusoft Plus Lid Scrub
    # Zylet drops as needed

    I'd say with this regimen my eyes are still frequently red and sore. Sometimes worse than others.

    Well, a while ago I injured the MCL in my left knee. I went to the doctor and he ordered an MRI to determine the extent of the problem. He also prescribed a tablet with 800 mg of Ibuprofen for me to take three times a day. Well, no sooner did I start taking this mega dose of ibuprofen than my eyes started to feel better. I noticed that the whites of my eyes were suddenly white rather than the reddish and blood shot look they normally have. I also noticed that my need for Systane dropped way off. This really surprised me because I always thought these anti-inflammants tend to cause the eyes to dry out even more.

    I'm wondering if anyone else ever had an experience like this. And if there is possibly some 'science' behind what happened with me.

    Thanks for any thoughts

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    I haven't had that experience because I can't take ibuprofen due to gastric problems, however, it totally makes sense. Your eyes are inflamed. You took an anti-inflammatory. Voila! Do you have rosacea? That's an inflammation.

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    That's something I've been wondering. If NSAIDs can help with the inflammation of my eyelids. I've always been a little put off since I heard they can make dry eye worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randyw57 View Post
    My current daily regimen is this:

    # One drop of Restasis in each eye, twice a day
    # 2400 mg of flaxseed oil
    # 100 mg of doxycycline
    # Erythromycin ointment at bedtime
    # About 9 vials of Systane
    # Ocusoft Plus Lid Scrub
    # Zylet drops as needed

    I'd say with this regimen my eyes are still frequently red and sore. Sometimes worse than others.

    Well, a while ago I injured the MCL in my left knee. I went to the doctor and he ordered an MRI to determine the extent of the problem. He also prescribed a tablet with 800 mg of Ibuprofen for me to take three times a day. Well, no sooner did I start taking this mega dose of ibuprofen than my eyes started to feel better. I noticed that the whites of my eyes were suddenly white rather than the reddish and blood shot look they normally have. I also noticed that my need for Systane dropped way off. This really surprised me because I always thought these anti-inflammants tend to cause the eyes to dry out even more.

    I'm wondering if anyone else ever had an experience like this. And if there is possibly some 'science' behind what happened with me.

    Thanks for any thoughts


    Hi

    That's great news. I have pondered taking higher doses of ibuprofen but wasn't confident of it working. Like you said, I thought it might make the eyes even more dry.

    Is ibuprofen taken in addition to your current treatment or have you modified that? I take doxy and generous amounts of flaxseed etc but have problems with finding suitable eye drops / lid scrubs that do not irritate.

    Many thanks

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    I have definitely made this connection too! I had to take 3 tablets (600mg) for something unrelated and about an hour later I was doing something that was tedious and would most likely cause me to not blink often but my eyes felt fine. They were white and healthy looking and were not watering! I was quite surprised! If only I could take it all the time, but of course you are looking to have other health problems related to long term use of Ibuprofen at that point.

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    The only thing that helps my eyes when they get inflammed is consistent and regular doses of ibuprofen. It helps significantly. Alas, due to my gastric disorder it stirs that up. I can manage it if I take it with food and am careful with my diet, but I cannot take it more than a couple of days in a row. My doctor said it directly reduces inflammation. I had very severe inflammation last winter and it can be so miserable.

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    It helps me significantly as well if I take regularly. If I take it before bed I wake up feeling better.

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    Ibuprofen has a positive effect on me---it calms down my IBS, reduces eye pain, reduces muscle and joint pain, and helps me sleep. But good grief---2400 mg per day sounds like a huge dose. I had the 600 mg tablets for a while and they gave me major nausea and diarrhea. I try to use ibuprofen sparingly---I take 2 tabs (400 mg) maybe 2-3 times a day, if I'm in pain.

    You should definitely be taking it with plenty of food or water to prevent stomach/esophagus damage, and have liver function tests done, if you take it for a really long time.

    C

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    That was exactly the same idea which floated in my mind during these weeks : I wanted to try ibruprofen!!
    Since D.Latkany told me (on forum) dat I may be allergic (or even I may have rosacea - personal thought)... I was finking of taking ibuprofen.

    Well I try it long before but wit a low dose :200 to 400mg for 1 week...
    But hey Randy, u take 800 mg THRICE daily????????
    According to wikipedia (my fav website) : over-the-counter preparations of ibuprofen are generally labeled to advise a maximum daily dose of 1,200 mg...

    man, aren't u taking too much = 2400 mg!!!
    are u considering it for long term usage?
    be cautious!... ur LIVER is at stake here!...
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    Who is considering it for longterm use?
    is it safe for LT?

    Ohh, btw longg before i tried 400mg for 1 week (like i said) .. but it wasn't effective at all!!..
    If I have to choose between being happy and sad, I''ll choose being happy....... and you?... so.... stop choosing being unhappy (yeah its hard but....)....stop depressing........ live!!!

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    I have to take NSAIDS every day for spinal osteo-arthritis - my Dr hates me being on them long term but i have no option in my opinion
    I was taking them BEFORE i got my dry eyes and also non stop since - I cant really say i noticed any difference - i still got my dryeye really bad at first, and have got it more or less under control through eyelid hygiene and local antibiotic ointment to the lid margins

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    Prescription strength ibuprofen at 800 mg 3x daily is not a problem but you don't want to be on it for a long time.

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    Interesting thread - here's something to throw into the mix - THIS IS NOT A SUGGESTION TO TRY THIS AS IT COULD BE DISASTEROUS FOR YOUR EYES ! merely a topic for futher discussion.

    Ibuprofen would ligically reduce inflammation and help those who have this problem - however it is bad fo rthe liver etc long term - what about Ibuprofen GEL (for muscular aches etc) smeared lightly on the eylids?

    Is there an ibuprofen based ointment or drop avail?

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    For long-term NSAID usage, check out naproxen, marketed as Aleve and also available in generic form.

    I have osteoarthritis of the knee, and I use 1 - 2 tablets per day, every day to manage inflammation. Everything I have read says naproxen is the safest NSAID for long term use. That is not to say there is no warning on the label!

    PS, it's Tylenol that damages the liver . . . I have never heard that Ibuprofen does.

    There are creams like Aspercreme that have Salicylic acid - precursor of Aspirin - which I use for local inflammation and muscle aches. I would not recommend using it near the eyes however as it may cause irritation of the very delicate eye skin.

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    My eye doc called on of the popular RX eye drops "tylenol for the eyes." I forget which it was--sorry. Lucy
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    GZ's point about the liver is correct. Tylenol screws up your liver. Ibuprofen screws up your kidneys.
    Also, Aleve (Naprosin) upset my stomach big-time.
    And if you have asthma and/or gastric issues, stay away from all of the NSAIDs.

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    "Tylenol for the eyes" is probably Voltaren.

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    To add to the comments on naproxin (which i am on daily longterm)--you also need to take omeprazole or something similar to protect the stomach I am on a combination of both ,called Napratec
    Also you need to have 6 monthly kidney function tests done

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    What about curcumin -- a natural anti-inflammatory supplement? When I went to see Dr. Latkany for ocular rosacea, he mentioned it and I scribbled it down. Anyone try that longer-term with positive results?

    curly

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    Voltaren is an NSAID. Tylenol is a pain killer it is not an NSAID. An NSAID is a non steroidal anti-inflamatory.

    I like Curly's idea. Curcumin (a spice) is a natural anti-inflamatory and there are no downsides (other than it possibly not doing anything).

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    Nyer, does your stomach handle it OK?

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    Hi Ruby,
    I cannot take ANY NSAIDS (neither should you, Ruby). I can take Tylenol, but that's not relevant because it's not an anti-inflammatory, so that wouldn't help our eye issues.
    And with your and my gastric disorders, I wouldn't go near curcumin either, but that's because we can't eat any hot/spicy/acidic foods...and curcumin is a hot spice (used in Indian cooking). Hey, I can't even eat black pepper. If I add salt to my food, it's the big excitement of my day.
    But for people with normal gastric systems, curcumin is certainly worth a try.
    -NYer

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    Curcumin is another term for turmeric, the yellow colored spice---but it's not a "hot" spice. In fact, it is recommended for its anti-inflammatory effects. Here's a quote from Wikipedia:
    "Curcumin is known for its antitumor,[3][4] antioxidant, antiarthritic, anti-amyloid and anti-inflammatory properties."

    I take it in a capsule, and it doesn't cause any stomach upset for me. I also use it as a spice. It's also a digestive stimulant. Don't get it as part of "curry" spice--that might be hot. But by itself, it's cool.

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    Thank you, Calli, that's good to know. I have to be careful with everything I put in my mouth because of my digestive problems.

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    I suspected that NYER but thanks for verifying. No, I cannot take any of those meds either. I can take an Ibuprofen or two for inflammation and it helps a lot, but more than 2 in a day and I do have stomach problems. I always take it with food too. Also, I have never been able to eat pepper. Even as a child it gave me stomach cramps. For me, ketchup on a taco was as spicy as I ever got, and now I can't even do ketchup. Oh well, overall, as a result I eat much healthier than I used to.

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    I fell across Ibuprofin in a similar way. I used it for wrist problems and then all of the sudden my eyes felt much better but didn't relate it to the ibuprofin. I thought it was because I started using a hand sanitizer all day long thinking I had the eye fishing syndrome and need to keep my hands much cleaner but that was not the case. But the Ibuprofin causes mee to have much less mucus throughout the day and significantly less dry in the mornings. I actually didnt realize it until I read this post. I had gone off it for a few months this summer and things got worse again. I have been taking it again for two weeks now ever since I saw this original post and it definitely made an immediate difference within a few days. Right now I take 2 200mg capsules in the mid morning after a snack like yogurt, apple, etc and then 2 200mg capsules later in the evening nearing bedtime with large glass of water.

    So my questions is that if we find relief from Ibuprofin does that narrow down our diagnosis? Does this mean it's NOT allergies because I was on Pataday and it never made this kind of difference. I am going to see Dr. Latkany at the end of the month and will post about my experience/advice.

    By the way 27 male here - corneal graft left eye with relaxation incisions and awaiting PRK, sever kc in right eye managable with RGP for now, chronic dry eye sufferer, mucus, no itchy or watery eyes, but was tested positive for indoor allergies suchas dust mites, molds, cats, dogs etc, asthma issues

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    Ibuprofen is especially effective for nerve pain/inflammation. My dentist told me it's the best one to use for toothache--tooth nerve pain, and I've found that to be true---it works even better than heavy prescription painkillers. The eye/cornea are rich in nerves---and I've heard---when you take it, higher concentrations end up in eye tissue, and more quickly than it gets to other parts of the body.

    You have to be careful that you're masking eye pain that should be alerting you to a severe problem. And too much ibuprofen is hard on your stomach.

    But yeah, I often use it when I'm having a really tough day, and can't stand it anymore, and want to get a decent night's sleep.

    C

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    You have to be careful that you're masking eye pain that should be alerting you to a severe problem.
    This is one of my main concerns when I use it. I'd a) like to know how much the anti-inflamation effect occurs (which I'm not sure because of the pain killing element) and b) not run the risk of over doing things with my eyes because I'm not getting any discomfort sensations as early as I would otherwise do.

    However, if the anti-inflamation effect is worth it, then taking Ibuprofen is probably a good idea for me as I think it's my main problem.

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    I can understand that taking it can hide the real problem and make things worse. But I've had these same problems for 10 years. Pretty much started when I was diagnosed with KC and started wearing hard lenses. And the complications are very consistent and haven't changed. So a little ibuprofin doesn't concern me at this point. It makes my life much more functional.

    So is taking doryx, doxy or minocyline less harmful harmful to your body then ibuprofin. It seems that every person I know is consistently on some type of prescribed medication and I am actually thankful I might just have to take an over the counter ibuprofin.

    As I mentioned before I am going to see Dr. Latkany end of the month and will raise all these concerns. I want him to find the real cause of my problems so I am not tempted to take ibuprofin anymore. He might be able to pinpoint what might be going with the eyes if he knows that ibuprofin makes my eyes feel better.

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